1 00:00:23,250 --> 00:00:14,330 [Music] 2 00:00:23,260 --> 00:00:25,940 you 3 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:29,320 my name's Calvin Parker and 4 00:00:38,290 --> 00:00:31,850 story that dates back to October 11th of 5 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:38,300 1973 when it all begun so I had all been 6 00:00:43,390 --> 00:00:41,450 working in the oil field and working 16 7 00:00:46,689 --> 00:00:43,400 hours a day seven days a week and I 8 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:46,699 decided to quit the oil field because I 9 00:00:52,660 --> 00:00:50,090 was engaged to get married in about a 10 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:52,670 month so I quit and wanted a normal job 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:00:54,890 I called a friend of mine which was 12 00:01:01,869 --> 00:01:00,170 Charlie Higson so we're now 13 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:01,879 I called him he said we'll come on down 14 00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:03,890 and go to work so I just rented a room 15 00:01:10,210 --> 00:01:07,060 from Charlie for a little bit of wheat 16 00:01:12,730 --> 00:01:10,220 so we went to work together my first day 17 00:01:16,719 --> 00:01:12,740 there as a ship fitter on the shipyard 18 00:01:20,740 --> 00:01:16,729 at the old dog show peppy Walker's son 19 00:01:23,020 --> 00:01:20,750 shipyard we went to work and it was a 20 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:23,030 good day but it was hot for an October 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:23,680 day 22 00:01:29,469 --> 00:01:26,930 so when we got off work Charlie asked me 23 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:29,479 said you want to go fishing and of 24 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:31,430 course I wanted to go fishing you know 25 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:33,710 because that's what we did back him for 26 00:01:40,690 --> 00:01:38,750 recreation in 73 so we went got her 27 00:01:43,059 --> 00:01:40,700 fishing equipment loaded up and went to 28 00:01:45,430 --> 00:01:43,069 a place called the shop Peter shipyard 29 00:01:48,850 --> 00:01:45,440 and when we got there I noticed I was 30 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:48,860 lava debris and all on video 31 00:01:54,850 --> 00:01:52,700 feel out next to us but what I found out 32 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:54,860 later I thought they was just the base I 33 00:01:59,620 --> 00:01:57,770 found out that oh that washed the end 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:01:59,630 with a tide and then when the tide went 35 00:02:04,390 --> 00:02:02,330 out I just left it there so we had them 36 00:02:08,830 --> 00:02:04,400 parked and there was a no trespassing 37 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:08,840 sign and we had a real hard time getting 38 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:10,729 the wood we were and I kept asking 39 00:02:16,090 --> 00:02:13,280 Charlie I said this is no trespassing 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:16,100 and I don't think we need to be trashed 41 00:02:21,940 --> 00:02:18,410 all I fished here all the time okay 42 00:02:24,670 --> 00:02:21,950 Charlie let's go so I was all game for 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:24,680 it we walked down to the pier we got set 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:28,010 down and as we sat down I was looking 45 00:02:35,110 --> 00:02:32,090 across the river and there was a big 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:35,120 ship a Coast Guard ship or NOAA Ship 47 00:02:40,330 --> 00:02:37,850 anyhow I was a big ship actor and I was 48 00:02:42,130 --> 00:02:40,340 sitting there thinking to myself how 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:42,140 does these things float made out of 50 00:02:47,230 --> 00:02:44,810 steel and then that's when I noticed 51 00:02:49,630 --> 00:02:47,240 some blue hazy lights coming from across 52 00:02:51,610 --> 00:02:49,640 their back and I didn't pay much 53 00:02:54,190 --> 00:02:51,620 attention to start with but then I got 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:54,200 to thinking we'll we're trespassing on 55 00:02:59,590 --> 00:02:56,570 this private property and that's the 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:02:59,600 same lights at the yo chef department 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:03,530 now uses on their cars then so that got 58 00:03:08,050 --> 00:03:05,450 our attention we stood up turn around 59 00:03:11,770 --> 00:03:08,060 and look at the time we turned around 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:11,780 and looked it was late I mean we've seen 61 00:03:16,870 --> 00:03:14,690 the blue hazy lights and then it must 62 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:16,880 have been a door opened up on something 63 00:03:22,509 --> 00:03:20,120 on this craft that we had seen and the 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:22,519 lights just got so bright I mean they 65 00:03:27,490 --> 00:03:24,890 was extremely bright there was blinding 66 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:27,500 almost and before we knew it 67 00:03:32,850 --> 00:03:29,840 Charlie our boat was looking at this 68 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:32,860 time of before we knew it they was three 69 00:03:39,370 --> 00:03:36,070 creatures and I couldn't describe them 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:39,380 they're facing our right now but they 71 00:03:44,140 --> 00:03:41,450 have just appeared right there who we 72 00:03:46,050 --> 00:03:44,150 were come to find out later they was 73 00:03:48,699 --> 00:03:46,060 floating across the top of the yield 74 00:03:50,910 --> 00:03:48,709 marsh grass and all that's how they made 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:50,920 it that fast but 76 00:03:54,870 --> 00:03:53,170 these three pictures just appeared where 77 00:03:57,630 --> 00:03:54,880 two of them got ahold of child and one 78 00:04:02,059 --> 00:03:57,640 got ahold of myself and immediately I 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:02,069 felt a young puncher wound in my arm and 80 00:04:08,699 --> 00:04:06,370 just got real relaxed I was extra scared 81 00:04:11,220 --> 00:04:08,709 before this happened and wanted to run 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:11,230 but it was nowhere to run but when they 83 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:13,090 had got ahold of me and I felt that 84 00:04:19,470 --> 00:04:17,350 puncher mark it just relaxed me so later 85 00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:19,480 on at the hospital we found out that 86 00:04:26,730 --> 00:04:22,990 they gave us some kind of injection well 87 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:26,740 from that point on when they grabbed me 88 00:04:31,409 --> 00:04:29,290 by the one they levitated me up and they 89 00:04:33,659 --> 00:04:31,419 floated me toward the crowd and I 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:33,669 noticed one thing before going inside I 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:36,490 was looking for all where all the lights 92 00:04:41,940 --> 00:04:39,970 was coming from but I couldn't do 93 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:41,950 nothing but just look straight ahead and 94 00:04:47,610 --> 00:04:45,400 roll my head I couldn't move my body but 95 00:04:50,670 --> 00:04:47,620 it was coming out of the walls it's just 96 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:50,680 like you painted lights on them on the 97 00:04:55,890 --> 00:04:53,650 walls there and they were bright so we 98 00:04:58,140 --> 00:04:55,900 got there and I kind of look now didn't 99 00:05:01,860 --> 00:04:58,150 see any fixtures anything at the time 100 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:01,870 and this thing made a left turn and then 101 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:04,960 it made the immediate right turn and 102 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:07,630 then it laid me out on me I call it an 103 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:10,960 examination table on about a 16 degree 104 00:05:17,310 --> 00:05:14,890 angle now I don't know what they called 105 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:17,320 it but that's what I called it so we was 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:19,870 laying at about a 16 degree angle and 107 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:22,930 all of a sudden I the Sailor my head on 108 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:26,320 my back looking up out of the Sailor and 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:28,090 something my size of a deck of cards 110 00:05:34,140 --> 00:05:31,450 that came down and it stopped about a 111 00:05:36,540 --> 00:05:34,150 foot in front of my head and I heard it 112 00:05:38,730 --> 00:05:36,550 clicked one time then he went to the 113 00:05:41,790 --> 00:05:38,740 other side of my head and click there 114 00:05:44,250 --> 00:05:41,800 behind my head and clicked and then it 115 00:05:47,550 --> 00:05:44,260 clipped one more time and just shot back 116 00:05:52,210 --> 00:05:47,560 up into the ceiling so I don't know what 117 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:52,220 that was and what all that was about but 118 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:55,080 anyhow it made that clicking noise and 119 00:05:59,240 --> 00:05:57,330 then all of a sudden this big robotic 120 00:06:02,420 --> 00:05:59,250 looking creature that had me and I'm 121 00:06:05,689 --> 00:06:02,430 convinced he was a robot cause he moved 122 00:06:08,930 --> 00:06:05,699 mechanically wise he was about five foot 123 00:06:13,129 --> 00:06:08,940 tall he had looked like mittens on his 124 00:06:17,390 --> 00:06:13,139 hands and also walked he just backed up 125 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:17,400 to the door and this other feminine 126 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:19,770 looking creature came out and I'm pretty 127 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:23,250 sure she was a female because a man can 128 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:26,430 just sense a female when in a woman 129 00:06:31,070 --> 00:06:29,070 consents a male I know there's times 130 00:06:33,379 --> 00:06:31,080 that I've been to Bourbon Street you 131 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:33,389 know and you can tell the difference in 132 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:35,850 the cross-dressers of drag queens now 133 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:39,120 and a real female and that's the sense 134 00:06:44,060 --> 00:06:40,800 that I heard that this was a female 135 00:06:45,980 --> 00:06:44,070 wherever she was or not I don't know you 136 00:06:49,129 --> 00:06:45,990 know I didn't get to look that far down 137 00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:49,139 to see if she really was but she came 138 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:52,300 out her fingers was normal 139 00:07:00,140 --> 00:06:54,970 and her two metal fingers was just a 140 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:00,150 little longer than then her other 141 00:07:06,060 --> 00:07:03,010 fingers are all what our focus would be 142 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:06,070 and she grabbed me by the cheek and kind 143 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:07,690 of pitched my cheek a little bit and I 144 00:07:11,850 --> 00:07:10,870 didn't feel any feelings whatsoever when 145 00:07:13,740 --> 00:07:11,860 she done then 146 00:07:16,410 --> 00:07:13,750 but then she grabbed me about a mouth 147 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:16,420 and prized it open and she run her two 148 00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:19,050 middle fingers down my throat that 149 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:21,700 behind that little thing that hangs down 150 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:24,580 is Chyna and I that's when I started 151 00:07:29,790 --> 00:07:27,730 choking and I just got real choked up 152 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:29,800 and it was I think she was trying to get 153 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:32,590 into my navel cavity nasal cavity for a 154 00:07:37,950 --> 00:07:35,350 reason but anyhow I started choking it 155 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:37,960 all and that's when she the only thing 156 00:07:44,610 --> 00:07:41,650 I've heard and her mouth didn't moves 157 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:44,620 she must have sent a telepathic message 158 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:47,290 I'm not going we're not gonna hurt you 159 00:07:54,060 --> 00:07:50,980 and she said were not so you know I 160 00:07:56,580 --> 00:07:54,070 understood that anaconda made me feel a 161 00:07:58,710 --> 00:07:56,590 little more at ease but you know by that 162 00:08:01,740 --> 00:07:58,720 time I was already choking and my nose 163 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:01,750 was started bleeding so she pulled out 164 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:04,290 and she made a little mumble noise and 165 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:07,930 that's when the big robotic the big ugly 166 00:08:12,930 --> 00:08:10,120 one what I call her robotic looking 167 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:12,940 creatures came back over and grabbed me 168 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:15,610 by the arm again and I heard her hoof 169 00:08:22,740 --> 00:08:19,450 like that and it was another injection 170 00:08:25,530 --> 00:08:22,750 and later on I found out when went to 171 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:25,540 the hospital it's kind of like a err 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:28,300 needle that's all or that's what they 173 00:08:33,150 --> 00:08:31,330 figured it was out but till you inject 174 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:33,160 you'd like to do the military you know 175 00:08:41,130 --> 00:08:36,250 by the guards or no they inject 176 00:08:44,730 --> 00:08:41,140 something into you so I automatically 177 00:08:46,650 --> 00:08:44,740 relaxed me when he did this again was 178 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:46,660 she made another little noise and she 179 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:48,490 turned around and left I guess she was 180 00:08:54,690 --> 00:08:51,910 through with me so when she left this 181 00:08:57,450 --> 00:08:54,700 big ugly creature grabbed me put me back 182 00:09:00,590 --> 00:08:57,460 out on the river exactly where he picked 183 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:00,600 me up and my arms were stretched out 184 00:09:05,669 --> 00:09:02,769 facing the river 185 00:09:07,109 --> 00:09:05,679 and that's where my I heard the guy that 186 00:09:10,650 --> 00:09:07,119 was with me Charles Hickson 187 00:09:13,049 --> 00:09:10,660 he said son son you okay and I was 188 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:13,059 talking to myself no I'm not okay you 189 00:09:17,579 --> 00:09:15,730 know but it will have to be and that's 190 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:17,589 when we both stood up and turn around 191 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:20,290 looked and this thing they were back at 192 00:09:25,439 --> 00:09:23,290 the ship by then and they just picked up 193 00:09:27,210 --> 00:09:25,449 a little bit off the ground then they 194 00:09:32,009 --> 00:09:27,220 just more or less disappeared into the 195 00:09:34,530 --> 00:09:32,019 air like a stroke of lightning but uh we 196 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:34,540 sit there and talked a few minutes 197 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:36,910 and I told Charlie he said well we need 198 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:38,740 to tell somebody I said tell somebody 199 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:41,680 what I wasn't here because I didn't want 200 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:44,650 nobody to know because I was fixing to 201 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:47,110 get married and all I wanted in life was 202 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:50,890 to get married have children buy a house 203 00:09:56,790 --> 00:09:53,590 have grandchildren retire and fish 204 00:09:59,010 --> 00:09:56,800 that's all I wanted so I said no I don't 205 00:10:01,950 --> 00:09:59,020 know anything about it Charlie I wasn't 206 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:01,960 there so let's just not tell nobody 207 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:05,680 well okay so we made our way back to the 208 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:10,210 car when we got to the car I had a 1973 209 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:12,640 Rimmel Hornet it was a brand-new little 210 00:10:19,110 --> 00:10:16,060 car and the windows was shattered on the 211 00:10:22,110 --> 00:10:19,120 passenger side that's the same side to 212 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:22,120 craft and landed on and that was just 213 00:10:27,450 --> 00:10:24,160 all shatter didn't in place with that 214 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:27,460 safety glass so we opened it and the 215 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:29,230 glass fell out on the drive our 216 00:10:34,890 --> 00:10:31,870 passenger side and I tried to crank the 217 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:34,900 car they wouldn't hardly crank so I must 218 00:10:39,390 --> 00:10:36,640 have grinded on it for fifteen minutes 219 00:10:42,450 --> 00:10:39,400 to the battery never got weak and I was 220 00:10:44,869 --> 00:10:42,460 often wondered about that finally got it 221 00:10:48,739 --> 00:10:44,879 cranked and we left 222 00:10:50,929 --> 00:10:48,749 so when we left we drove up there was a 223 00:10:53,989 --> 00:10:50,939 store just before we get to Charley's 224 00:10:57,259 --> 00:10:53,999 apartment and we put he said pull up 225 00:10:59,179 --> 00:10:57,269 here well I was wondering why because in 226 00:11:01,879 --> 00:10:59,189 state of Mississippi they have blue laws 227 00:11:04,609 --> 00:11:01,889 and the stores shut down at a certain 228 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:04,619 time every night when the blue law was 229 00:11:10,219 --> 00:11:07,289 in effect but he's seen a phone there a 230 00:11:13,789 --> 00:11:10,229 payphone back in they didn't have cell 231 00:11:15,650 --> 00:11:13,799 phones they didn't have all computers so 232 00:11:19,129 --> 00:11:15,660 you didn't have to worry about all this 233 00:11:21,439 --> 00:11:19,139 media and stuff so he went to the phone 234 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:21,449 we hunted a dime he called Keesler Air 235 00:11:28,069 --> 00:11:25,649 Force Base well case our told him he 236 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:28,079 explained to him what happened case law 237 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:29,950 said well 238 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:31,930 we don't deal with this kind of thing 239 00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:34,410 anymore - call your local authorities 240 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:37,750 Charlie said okay so he came back to the 241 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:40,570 card he got another dime we had to dig 242 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:44,800 under the seat to find it and he dropped 243 00:11:52,110 --> 00:11:49,120 it in I heard him talking to somebody at 244 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:52,120 the Sheriff Department then so when he 245 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:54,250 told him told him what happened I heard 246 00:11:57,810 --> 00:11:56,050 Charlie say you got to promise me you're 247 00:12:00,569 --> 00:11:57,820 not gonna laugh and I was listening to 248 00:12:03,150 --> 00:12:00,579 one side later on I found out they're 249 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:03,160 dead laughs he the detective said well 250 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:05,769 we're not gonna laugh and then though I 251 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:08,050 seen an interview later on with his 252 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:11,130 detective he said and I laughed so 253 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:13,660 anyhow Charlie told him about what's 254 00:12:18,630 --> 00:12:15,370 happened they said you boys sent right 255 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:18,640 there so we sat in the car waiting on 256 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:20,110 the shelf Department to get there 257 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:22,480 because they thought we was drunk or on 258 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:24,700 drugs or something and they wanted to 259 00:12:31,870 --> 00:12:27,760 come check us out so they got their home 260 00:12:35,170 --> 00:12:31,880 they looked inside the car 261 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:35,180 side i wanted to say my ID so i showed 262 00:12:41,730 --> 00:12:38,300 her my driver's license an ID and then 263 00:12:45,220 --> 00:12:41,740 they told me to step out of the car and 264 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:45,230 stand on one leg jump up and down hold 265 00:12:51,490 --> 00:12:48,649 my head back touch my nose close my eyes 266 00:12:55,269 --> 00:12:51,500 and count backwards I thought what a 267 00:12:57,009 --> 00:12:55,279 bunch of idiots yeah they all figured we 268 00:13:00,340 --> 00:12:57,019 was drinking and just trying to have 269 00:13:02,259 --> 00:13:00,350 some fun but then when they got through 270 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:02,269 with the field sobriety test they said 271 00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:04,250 follow us through the surf Department 272 00:13:09,699 --> 00:13:07,519 and we got there we did we cranked out 273 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:09,709 and followed them which was about eight 274 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:12,560 minutes away from there and when we got 275 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:14,930 there they had a balloon of some kind 276 00:13:19,210 --> 00:13:16,639 they made me blow and they didn't make 277 00:13:20,889 --> 00:13:19,220 charlie blow really but I said to her 278 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:20,899 and I believe we're not balloon until I 279 00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:23,529 was convinced I hadn't been drinking 280 00:13:28,990 --> 00:13:26,990 so they put put us in separate rooms 281 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:29,000 they took Charlie in one room and I in 282 00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:30,889 another room and they started 283 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:33,740 interrogating us separately then all of 284 00:13:38,829 --> 00:13:35,600 a sudden they brought us out and it put 285 00:13:40,780 --> 00:13:38,839 us into a room together and one went 286 00:13:42,699 --> 00:13:40,790 into the room together they had a tape 287 00:13:44,980 --> 00:13:42,709 recorder in her drawer we didn't know 288 00:13:48,730 --> 00:13:44,990 about and that's what they call the 289 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:48,740 sacred tape now so I didn't get to hear 290 00:13:54,939 --> 00:13:52,160 it up until about a year ago this secret 291 00:13:59,290 --> 00:13:54,949 tape that we talked about we were scared 292 00:14:01,540 --> 00:13:59,300 and what was going on in all this so 293 00:14:03,999 --> 00:14:01,550 that's what really convinced him that we 294 00:14:06,009 --> 00:14:04,009 was telling the truth and they already 295 00:14:11,190 --> 00:14:06,019 proved we weren't drinking because of 296 00:14:14,460 --> 00:14:11,200 they are testing for your blood alcohol 297 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:14,470 so when they got through the sheriff 298 00:14:20,950 --> 00:14:16,750 came in that make sure if he said go go 299 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:20,960 home and I would say y'all tomorrow 300 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:23,120 so we did when I got in a car drove 301 00:14:29,510 --> 00:14:27,470 herself home and then when I got home I 302 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:29,520 got to thinking 303 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:32,370 about maybe it's a possibility that we 304 00:14:37,340 --> 00:14:34,550 might have bacterial illness or 305 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:37,350 radiation so I got too worried about 306 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:40,530 there other people that was around us 307 00:14:44,390 --> 00:14:42,450 getting something from this I wasn't too 308 00:14:46,910 --> 00:14:44,400 worried about myself having anything but 309 00:14:48,860 --> 00:14:46,920 I was worried about two other people so 310 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:48,870 when I got to I went to the bathroom 311 00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:50,850 there was a gallon of bleach on the 312 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:53,100 bathtub I took all my clothes off my 313 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:55,890 shoes I put them in a paper bag and I 314 00:15:00,380 --> 00:14:57,690 poured this bleach over my head and 315 00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:00,390 washed it all just in case it was some 316 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:04,800 kind of bacteria now then after I got 317 00:15:10,580 --> 00:15:07,850 through about it I went on to bed I 318 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:10,590 tried to sleep I didn't sleep into that 319 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:12,240 night got off about 6:00 the next 320 00:15:20,630 --> 00:15:15,750 morning and Charlie and I left going to 321 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:20,640 work well Holly got to work it was a lot 322 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:22,800 of different cars there that shouldn't 323 00:15:30,530 --> 00:15:26,570 have been there and we knew that and but 324 00:15:32,810 --> 00:15:30,540 we didn't we really the sheriff had 325 00:15:35,930 --> 00:15:32,820 promised us that he wasn't gonna tell 326 00:15:39,170 --> 00:15:35,940 anybody so we did really didn't think 327 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:39,180 about being the press or anything but we 328 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:41,160 went on to the work station and that's 329 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:43,170 where the guy that owned the shipyard 330 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:46,650 called us in and told us to come to the 331 00:15:52,580 --> 00:15:49,530 office and I knew right then that 332 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:52,590 something was going on he said we cannot 333 00:15:57,890 --> 00:15:55,530 conduct business here our phones are 334 00:15:59,780 --> 00:15:57,900 ringing off the hook I don't know what 335 00:16:03,410 --> 00:15:59,790 happened to you guys but y'all need to 336 00:16:05,750 --> 00:16:03,420 give a press release right now and I'm 337 00:16:08,660 --> 00:16:05,760 going to call my turning in to takes 338 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:08,670 care of the shipyard business and y'all 339 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:11,040 tell him and he'd give the press the 340 00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:12,510 release to the press 341 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:16,880 so we did we talked to the attorney 342 00:16:22,060 --> 00:16:18,530 and I'm still wondering how in the world 343 00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:22,070 did they find out but after talking to 344 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:23,990 the attorney I told you my concerns 345 00:16:28,570 --> 00:16:26,780 about be you know contaminated with 346 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:28,580 something and maybe make everybody else 347 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:32,090 see so he made arrangements take us to 348 00:16:39,270 --> 00:16:36,110 all singing River Hospital right there 349 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:39,280 and possibly get us a good examination 350 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:42,470 bloodwork and all this and they said 351 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:45,650 well y'all look fine and then they 352 00:16:52,540 --> 00:16:48,110 called and said we're waiting for y'all 353 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:52,550 at Kiesler to do the radiation test well 354 00:16:57,190 --> 00:16:55,250 that was kind of scary itself because 355 00:16:59,560 --> 00:16:57,200 they put us in patrol car turn the 356 00:17:01,870 --> 00:16:59,570 lights on and they drove straight to 357 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:01,880 Keesler Air Force Base never had to go 358 00:17:06,189 --> 00:17:03,650 through security or nothing they flagged 359 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:06,199 his own through and we got back there 360 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:09,079 was six men and hazmat suits and they 361 00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:11,290 come out and check this out 362 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:14,540 did something rub had some kind of 363 00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:16,250 instrument to check this world 364 00:17:21,490 --> 00:17:19,430 and they said well y'all all clear but 365 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:21,500 they want to see you inside down the 366 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:24,620 hall and I thought Oh Lord I've heard 367 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:27,650 stories of this you know but it went 368 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:29,930 real well they escorted down the hoenn 369 00:17:36,460 --> 00:17:32,720 there's a lot of military officials it 370 00:17:39,460 --> 00:17:36,470 was on a lot of local officials like 371 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:39,470 mayors and police chief's and from three 372 00:17:44,620 --> 00:17:41,660 little towns that live right there by 373 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:44,630 the coast so I guess they was trying to 374 00:17:50,620 --> 00:17:46,850 figure out how to handle situation like 375 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:50,630 this so the military questions told us 376 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:54,050 they was all through and we could go so 377 00:18:00,840 --> 00:17:57,010 we drove back to the shipyard 378 00:18:03,870 --> 00:18:00,850 and that same day that we got back dr. 379 00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:03,880 John Allen Hynek had already heard about 380 00:18:09,390 --> 00:18:06,790 this and he was on his way and told him 381 00:18:13,470 --> 00:18:09,400 to what keep us there until the next day 382 00:18:15,450 --> 00:18:13,480 that he wanted to talk to us so I was 383 00:18:17,490 --> 00:18:15,460 actually planning on going home that 384 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:17,500 night but when they they said he was 385 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:19,900 down in native time at the time I didn't 386 00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:22,570 know who the how honey was you know he 387 00:18:26,340 --> 00:18:25,120 was just a name I heard doctor in front 388 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:26,350 of it and you know and that's the where 389 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:29,590 he must be important so the next morning 390 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:31,780 when winnie and dr. Hynek and doctor 391 00:18:35,789 --> 00:18:32,950 john allen heimer 392 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:35,799 harder was there were dr. harder there 393 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:38,110 was a physical exam he looked at my arm 394 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:42,040 or we had them punch her Mars he was 395 00:18:47,220 --> 00:18:45,250 going to a regrets hypnosis only but he 396 00:18:49,890 --> 00:18:47,230 had to bring me back out but he did own 397 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:49,900 Charlie well who are doing that dr. 398 00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:51,610 Heinrich pulled me in a room and asked 399 00:18:57,150 --> 00:18:54,040 me a lot of questions wanted to go to 400 00:18:59,310 --> 00:18:57,160 the site where this happened so you know 401 00:19:03,539 --> 00:18:59,320 I agreed to do that so I could just get 402 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:03,549 rid of him and go but uh everybody was 403 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:05,770 extremely nice about it his end 404 00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:09,010 conclusion was well I don't know what 405 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:11,320 these guys went through but to win 406 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:14,280 through something traumatic and if they 407 00:19:18,830 --> 00:19:16,690 actors they should be in Hollywood 408 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:18,840 because they doing a good job at it and 409 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:21,460 that was the last I seen honey 410 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:25,090 oh and harder really from what I 411 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:26,890 understand he went out to the same 412 00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:28,809 investor that he looked around I don't 413 00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:30,460 know what he found or what it didn't 414 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:37,720 find so well I got back home I meant we 415 00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:40,090 got through there I got my car and I 416 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:41,679 hauled my butt back to Laurel 417 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:44,730 Mississippi 105 miles from the coast and 418 00:19:51,780 --> 00:19:48,130 I knew I was gonna have to tell my 419 00:19:53,820 --> 00:19:51,790 family something friends but they never 420 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:53,830 asked me about it so I never told him 421 00:20:00,330 --> 00:19:56,730 nothing and I kept that up for 45 years 422 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:00,340 now I later on found out who broke the 423 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:04,240 story back then people were nosy they 424 00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:06,490 had her nose and everybody's business so 425 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:08,160 everybody had a scanner 426 00:20:13,279 --> 00:20:10,530 and they scan the place Department and 427 00:20:14,810 --> 00:20:13,289 the fire department and they must have 428 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:14,820 heard it come over through the chef 429 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:17,400 department inner cone and that's how the 430 00:20:22,669 --> 00:20:20,250 story actually got out through the 431 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:22,679 Mississippi press picked it up and then 432 00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:25,679 all the nosy people picked it up and 433 00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:28,980 called in about it and it was hundreds 434 00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:31,470 of reporters there though it went 435 00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:35,220 international for most still going 436 00:20:44,190 --> 00:20:38,220 international this has been going on 45 437 00:20:47,159 --> 00:20:44,200 years so well I just done what 438 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:47,169 I said I do I kept my mouth shut I tried 439 00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:49,870 not to tell nobody but I tell somebody 440 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:53,950 you know I got fired I got hired fired 441 00:20:58,860 --> 00:20:56,370 in a physical exam I all on the same day 442 00:21:02,960 --> 00:20:58,870 and that's just about the way it 443 00:21:06,509 --> 00:21:02,970 happened my first day at the shipyard Oh 444 00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:06,519 then I got inducted that day I got fired 445 00:21:11,519 --> 00:21:08,529 that same day because interfering with 446 00:21:15,870 --> 00:21:11,529 shipyard business but I was happy to 447 00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:15,880 leave so I went back home and then when 448 00:21:21,509 --> 00:21:17,950 I got home nobody asked me about it we 449 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:21,519 didn't talk about it and that November 450 00:21:27,899 --> 00:21:25,330 this happened October 11th of 1973 so 451 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:27,909 November the 9th which is next month I 452 00:21:33,180 --> 00:21:30,700 got married until this day my wife has 453 00:21:37,769 --> 00:21:33,190 never asked me about it until we started 454 00:21:39,389 --> 00:21:37,779 working on the book so when we was doing 455 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:39,399 the book you know I answered a few 456 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:41,710 questions about it and that's really 457 00:21:48,389 --> 00:21:43,809 strange where the book come up because 458 00:21:53,129 --> 00:21:48,399 so we was at her friend's funeral awake 459 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,139 and I signed the register normally I 460 00:21:58,289 --> 00:21:55,360 wouldn't sign my name to the register 461 00:22:01,879 --> 00:21:58,299 and somebody recognized it and I started 462 00:22:04,769 --> 00:22:01,889 asking there's all kind of questions and 463 00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:04,779 that wasn't a place to talk so I said 464 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:06,460 I'm getting out of that I'm not sure no 465 00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:08,350 disrespect 466 00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:10,360 not necessarily to the man but to his 467 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:13,840 family so we left and on the way home my 468 00:22:16,430 --> 00:22:15,550 wife said well maybe you're to write a 469 00:22:20,970 --> 00:22:16,440 book 470 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:20,980 well maybe being uneducated now and I 471 00:22:25,380 --> 00:22:23,050 couldn't really spell my own name when 472 00:22:28,650 --> 00:22:25,390 you get right down to it I said well if 473 00:22:30,330 --> 00:22:28,660 I find a ghostwriter I will and that was 474 00:22:32,130 --> 00:22:30,340 my way of putting her off I knew I 475 00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:32,140 wasn't gonna hunt no ghostwriter 476 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:35,380 I just wanted her to shut up about it so 477 00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:39,130 well I'll be during the next day Philip 478 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:43,120 mantle from the UK told well when he 479 00:22:47,370 --> 00:22:45,370 called he was on a complete different 480 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,380 subject it was on a book that Charlie 481 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Higson had wrote well we got to talk him 482 00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:52,450 and he had asked where I'd been I told 483 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:54,700 him I just didn't get press releases for 484 00:23:00,780 --> 00:22:57,250 nothing but host every time I get one 485 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:00,790 that would change my story in the press 486 00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:02,530 they would want to make it better than 487 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:04,240 what it was you know and that's pretty 488 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:07,030 traumatic what I went through so I 489 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:08,770 didn't really think you could add to it 490 00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:11,170 he said well why don't you do a book it 491 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:13,990 will be your legacy then and they can't 492 00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:16,570 change it actually that made a lot of 493 00:23:21,450 --> 00:23:19,600 sense to me when he said that but I 494 00:23:24,450 --> 00:23:21,460 still didn't have no intention to write 495 00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:24,460 the book so I told him well let me think 496 00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:26,350 about I said I feel up I don't have a 497 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:28,270 education or nothing I don't want to 498 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:30,970 write no rule I said let me think about 499 00:23:35,910 --> 00:23:33,370 it I figured he would just forget all 500 00:23:37,860 --> 00:23:35,920 about it he told me he'd call back in a 501 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:37,870 week and a week to that day he called 502 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:41,050 back and we sat down and talked to her 503 00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:44,650 while I still was real reluctant about 504 00:23:48,659 --> 00:23:46,360 doing a book and I said well Philip the 505 00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:48,669 only way I'll do it 506 00:23:53,489 --> 00:23:50,710 if you don't change nothing in the book 507 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:53,499 I said I don't have education you don't 508 00:23:58,289 --> 00:23:55,809 correct a misspelled word you don't put 509 00:24:01,109 --> 00:23:58,299 a period or question mark or nothing 510 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:01,119 into anywhere what I say in the way that 511 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:03,450 I write it is the way that it should be 512 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:07,600 he agreed and he stood by that his 513 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:10,480 agreement 100% and I really admire the 514 00:24:16,349 --> 00:24:12,970 man for doing that and since then we've 515 00:24:18,450 --> 00:24:16,359 become real close friends and I've never 516 00:24:21,330 --> 00:24:18,460 really met him but I'm going to the UK 517 00:24:23,970 --> 00:24:21,340 in August the meeting but we published 518 00:24:26,879 --> 00:24:23,980 them he published the book he didn't 519 00:24:29,940 --> 00:24:26,889 edit it like he said he took a lot of 520 00:24:31,859 --> 00:24:29,950 criticism for not editing it and I would 521 00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:31,869 really have to come to his defense and 522 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:34,840 that's like I told him he didn't edit it 523 00:24:41,009 --> 00:24:38,369 but cuz I asked him not to edit it so 524 00:24:45,749 --> 00:24:41,019 that's where we standing today we're 525 00:24:47,970 --> 00:24:45,759 selling a few books and going around to 526 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:47,980 these concerts somebody asked me what 527 00:24:51,899 --> 00:24:49,330 happened I just tell them to read the 528 00:24:54,629 --> 00:24:51,909 book and that's a zero amazing I haven't 529 00:24:58,019 --> 00:24:54,639 set up and explained to him and they all 530 00:25:00,810 --> 00:24:58,029 get the same story at the same place and 531 00:25:02,909 --> 00:25:00,820 still to this day I hadn't talked to 532 00:25:06,659 --> 00:25:02,919 none of my family about it just my wife 533 00:25:09,690 --> 00:25:06,669 when we started off doing the book and I 534 00:25:12,859 --> 00:25:09,700 had said that she looked normal and when 535 00:25:15,930 --> 00:25:12,869 I said that she favored more human being 536 00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,940 you know I never really looked at 537 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:17,919 pictures of aliens or nothing until I 538 00:25:22,649 --> 00:25:20,769 got into this and then I started looking 539 00:25:25,499 --> 00:25:22,659 at some of the pictures that the people 540 00:25:29,369 --> 00:25:25,509 had and some was pretty far out there 541 00:25:32,369 --> 00:25:29,379 and she didn't look nothing like this I 542 00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:32,379 was in I'm in the process now getting an 543 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:35,919 artist to do a oh I an artist sketch 544 00:25:41,310 --> 00:25:39,129 over from my descriptions it just takes 545 00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:41,320 time to be able to sit down with one you 546 00:25:46,139 --> 00:25:43,720 know but I do have one hard that I'm 547 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:46,149 going to do that will 548 00:25:55,199 --> 00:25:49,529 but she had facial features she had all 549 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:55,209 ears nose mouth eyes the only difference 550 00:25:59,759 --> 00:25:57,369 I could see them what Oh 551 00:26:02,369 --> 00:25:59,769 a human will look like her eyes was just 552 00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:02,379 a little smaller and I count that 553 00:26:08,059 --> 00:26:04,329 probably to the bright lights inside 554 00:26:10,829 --> 00:26:08,069 that craft maybe but I've seen these old 555 00:26:13,289 --> 00:26:10,839 big eyed creatures going around on what 556 00:26:16,709 --> 00:26:13,299 they call the greys I've never seen one 557 00:26:18,929 --> 00:26:16,719 of them in life now the big ol ugly 558 00:26:22,469 --> 00:26:18,939 creatures they just machines as far as 559 00:26:25,829 --> 00:26:22,479 I'm concerned what I perceived about to 560 00:26:28,289 --> 00:26:25,839 ship the size of it No the outside was 561 00:26:33,659 --> 00:26:28,299 coming oblong shaped like a football to 562 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:33,669 me and actually it was probably about 80 563 00:26:40,139 --> 00:26:36,569 or 100 foot long when it landed there oh 564 00:26:41,939 --> 00:26:40,149 and when you get in I don't know for 565 00:26:44,429 --> 00:26:41,949 some reason they just looked bigger and 566 00:26:48,239 --> 00:26:44,439 now the rooms was bigger but I just seen 567 00:26:50,489 --> 00:26:48,249 that hallway in that one room and I was 568 00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:50,499 escorted in and out the door I never 569 00:26:56,969 --> 00:26:54,789 seen any control panels or nothing like 570 00:26:59,939 --> 00:26:56,979 that or nobody else cept for the female 571 00:27:01,180 --> 00:26:59,949 alien but I'm sure they was some in 572 00:27:06,970 --> 00:27:01,190 there 573 00:27:10,750 --> 00:27:06,980 in 1993 I was on a fishing trip and it 574 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:10,760 was a cat island a six miles from my 575 00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:14,240 house by boat so I told my wife I'm 576 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:18,380 gonna go fishing and I'll be back before 577 00:27:23,950 --> 00:27:21,290 dark so I got in a boat she picks the 578 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:23,960 lunch and I went to cat island and I 579 00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:25,970 guess I got to around 11 o'clock that 580 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:30,280 day and I got my lunch out to eat it and 581 00:27:35,470 --> 00:27:32,930 then the next thing I knew it was 582 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:35,480 probably 3 4 2 3 4 o'clock in the 583 00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:38,090 morning my lunch was still right there 584 00:27:43,330 --> 00:27:41,120 where it was and I had all this time 585 00:27:46,420 --> 00:27:43,340 missing I couldn't figure out where it 586 00:27:49,210 --> 00:27:46,430 was and that's when I went to see y'all 587 00:27:52,930 --> 00:27:49,220 when I got back into the land I told a 588 00:27:56,170 --> 00:27:52,940 friend of mine and he was extremely 589 00:27:58,420 --> 00:27:56,180 smart because all he even helped 590 00:28:00,220 --> 00:27:58,430 invented the menu graham to detect 591 00:28:04,210 --> 00:28:00,230 breast cancer and also he was in the 592 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:04,220 medical field and he said look there's a 593 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:07,010 guy in Tampa Florida speaking right now 594 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,990 and he said the reason I know cuz he 595 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:10,880 lived in Tampa he just come down for a 596 00:28:16,510 --> 00:28:13,850 visit they wrote a book on missing time 597 00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:16,520 and I said well who was that he said 598 00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,800 Budd Hopkins and he said I'd like for 599 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:20,240 you to go talk to him 600 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:25,370 I said well I won't talk to him in front 601 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:28,010 of a crowd if he's at a conference or 602 00:28:33,070 --> 00:28:30,650 anything but I would like to talk to him 603 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:33,080 so we jumped in the car me and him went 604 00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:35,450 to whoa 605 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:37,630 Florida which is 12 hours from my house 606 00:28:41,769 --> 00:28:40,370 and I said would you go in and tell him 607 00:28:45,370 --> 00:28:41,779 he said he's speaking here 608 00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,380 he's a certainly so well this friend of 609 00:28:48,879 --> 00:28:47,600 mine went in Coburg that I wanted to 610 00:28:51,970 --> 00:28:48,889 talk to him I didn't think Doug would 611 00:28:54,730 --> 00:28:51,980 know be from anybody but apparently he 612 00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:54,740 knew my name and own and who I was and 613 00:29:00,340 --> 00:28:57,529 about past Magoo he said yeah y'all go 614 00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:00,350 to my room I'll be there in about 30 35 615 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:03,230 40 minutes he sure enough we went to his 616 00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:05,330 room and that's when Budd Hopkins showed 617 00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:08,720 up he introduced himself course so I 618 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:11,750 introduced mine and I told him my 619 00:29:17,470 --> 00:29:13,760 experience with the missing time that I 620 00:29:22,299 --> 00:29:17,480 had several hours missing so bud wanted 621 00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:22,309 to hypnotize me I said okay I've never 622 00:29:28,269 --> 00:29:25,070 never been hypnotized dr. harder tried 623 00:29:31,419 --> 00:29:28,279 it and didn't have much success said he 624 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:31,429 he says well let me try it maybe it 625 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:32,870 would be a little better I'm gonna try 626 00:29:40,090 --> 00:29:36,409 to make it easier so I said there's two 627 00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:40,100 things that I want from you bud number 628 00:29:44,610 --> 00:29:41,560 one 629 00:29:48,510 --> 00:29:44,620 when you hypnotize me I don't want it to 630 00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:48,520 be like a Las Vegas Oh floorshow like 631 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:50,200 you get out there made me do something 632 00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:52,690 stupid I don't want you to put nothing 633 00:29:58,740 --> 00:29:55,380 in my head and I said to make sure that 634 00:30:00,240 --> 00:29:58,750 this friend of mine I'm gonna give a 635 00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:00,250 ball back to her and he's gonna beat 636 00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:02,620 your brains out if you do and I said 637 00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,600 hand me the ball back not take the blame 638 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:07,120 for of course I was joking with him but 639 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:10,450 uh he took me real serious there for a 640 00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:12,970 while so we went ahead through the 641 00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:15,780 hypnosis he put a post hypnotic 642 00:30:20,940 --> 00:30:18,790 suggestion in my head that I wouldn't 643 00:30:25,389 --> 00:30:20,950 remember none of it until it was time 644 00:30:28,989 --> 00:30:25,399 for me to remember it so well 645 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:28,999 when I started writing the book I told 646 00:30:34,509 --> 00:30:32,570 Philip man oh I said we was for some 647 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,519 reason that come up talking about Burt 648 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:36,799 Hopkins something I said oh yeah bud 649 00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:39,289 tried to hypnotize me and he never was 650 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:41,990 able to do it he said but Hopkins he 651 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:43,610 said yeah he said well he's passed away 652 00:30:52,859 --> 00:30:50,340 he's got a tape on it I said okay so we 653 00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:52,869 y'all called dr. Jacobs who goes our 654 00:30:58,799 --> 00:30:56,350 Burt hopkins files and asked you me and 655 00:31:02,340 --> 00:30:58,809 dr. Jacobs said yeah we got the original 656 00:31:05,249 --> 00:31:02,350 tape where this happened with Calvin's 657 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:05,259 permission I'll send it to you and let 658 00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:12,710 anyhow dr. Jacobs called me and I agreed 659 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:16,950 you know to let bud do it so he sent the 660 00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:21,210 tape to all Philip mental Philip did the 661 00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:23,580 transcripts from the tape it took him a 662 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:25,980 few days because it was you know and no 663 00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:29,130 cassette tape and hard to hear so he did 664 00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:30,990 the transcripts and put them in the book 665 00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:34,080 then they sent the transcripts to me per 666 00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:38,550 email and I opened up and no I just read 667 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:40,980 a little bit of them just right there 668 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:43,140 and I thought we're done and I was 669 00:31:48,860 --> 00:31:45,270 hypnotized I got up and I went out and I 670 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,870 told my wife I said I was hypnotized 671 00:31:53,570 --> 00:31:51,120 that day believe it or not I don't 672 00:31:57,980 --> 00:31:53,580 believe it but I was actually hypnotized 673 00:32:00,320 --> 00:31:57,990 and we had the transcripts in there said 674 00:32:01,910 --> 00:32:00,330 I don't want to listen to him cuz I 675 00:32:04,820 --> 00:32:01,920 don't want to putting anything in my 676 00:32:07,670 --> 00:32:04,830 head as I want to remember this as I 677 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:07,680 remember it as it happened I said but 678 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:10,170 you can go in and listen to them and see 679 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:12,840 what you think so she went in listening 680 00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:15,090 to the tape and I said don't tell me 681 00:32:21,290 --> 00:32:16,980 nothing about it or anything because I 682 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:21,300 want to remember it and then to make the 683 00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:23,250 long story short we skipped a little 684 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:25,740 time down and I had a interview will 685 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:28,890 lend a Moulton Howe and she had done her 686 00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:31,410 homework and apparently she had listened 687 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:33,750 we went ahead and put it in the book but 688 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:36,410 I didn't read it I didn't listen to it 689 00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:39,810 but Linda Moulton Howe had and she 690 00:32:44,660 --> 00:32:42,240 started asking me some personal 691 00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:44,670 questions on that and that triggered my 692 00:32:51,650 --> 00:32:47,640 memory now until this day I had read the 693 00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:51,660 transcripts but I'm remembering as I 694 00:32:57,670 --> 00:32:54,900 remember it so I don't want nothing put 695 00:33:00,980 --> 00:32:57,680 in my head it's not in my head yeah and 696 00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:00,990 that's where I stand on that and I still 697 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:02,940 got a little bit to remember but it's 698 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:03,690 coming to me 699 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:06,390 and when it does I talked to my wife and 700 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:09,090 she's read the transcript and it's been 701 00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:12,210 working out really after it so far 702 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,590 so in a no bud didn't put nothing in my 703 00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:18,000 head that wasn't supposed to be there 704 00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:20,910 cuz I had a friend that I trusted in the 705 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:23,880 room where was him and his wife so you 706 00:33:27,410 --> 00:33:25,740 know there was nothing out of the 707 00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:27,420 ordinary putting our wasn't supposed to 708 00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:30,540 be the name of the book is pass pergolas 709 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:34,440 the closest encounter my story Calvin 710 00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:38,010 Parker and as far as I know Amazon is 711 00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:40,860 the only place to get it now the book 712 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:43,080 has been getting great reviews 713 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:49,830 Oh everybody says that you know it's not 714 00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:51,570 like an author would write it it's 715 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:53,670 different it's like we're sitting down 716 00:34:00,560 --> 00:33:55,230 in front of you and you telling your 717 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:00,570 story this never come to questioning of 718 00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:02,130 any that was true or not 719 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:04,760 but I've got all the evidence in the 720 00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:08,820 polygraph test boys stress test our 721 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:12,300 witnesses so it's all in there and 722 00:34:18,380 --> 00:34:16,290 that's like I tell anybody you get two 723 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:18,390 witnesses it's in the Bible you get two 724 00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:20,130 witnesses come together you can put 725 00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:22,740 somebody to death for that and that's 726 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:24,630 the way this is it's got more than that 727 00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:28,169 in it so I would recommend somebody 728 00:34:34,460 --> 00:34:31,080 reading it it's not for all the people 729 00:34:35,870 --> 00:34:34,470 and if somebody believes it that's fine 730 00:34:37,610 --> 00:34:35,880 with me they don't believe it I don't 731 00:34:40,490 --> 00:34:37,620 care they don't believe it that's up to